Electric Callboy & Sick New World
Jason Ziolo
this platform I was like cool put your ads in because I thought they'd show up and then they didn't so they're just there now there's got to be you know it's probably gonna make it too noisy anyways when we when we show it maybe
Parker
is there there's gotta be a a setting
Reed
There's gotta be.
Aren't we too
noisy?
Parker
Whatever.
Steve
I feel like I'm noisy.
Reed
I think,
yeah, but that's not talking. That's just gas and shit.
Chris
It's a great kickoff to an episode.
Steve
Ha
Jason Ziolo
Here we go. Ready? All right. I have almost. So what are we talking about today? Real quick. We're going to talk about Sick New World, me and Chris. We're going to do current news. Travis, you want to talk about the blue dot thing. Chris, we're going to talk Sick New World. Parker, you always have heavy stuff, so I assume you have that.
Parker
little bit, not much this week.
Jason Ziolo
I don't have much this.
Reed
Well, it doesn't matter.
Some of us went to an amazing show last Friday,
Parker
That's
also true.
Jason Ziolo
or what's
your call boy you guys should talk about too. I think that's gonna take us.
Reed
Hey, Parker, I
got a bunch of like real, like just shorter clips of each of the bands. Do you want me to send those to you so you can add them in? Okay, because I feel like 18 plus would be a great, you know.
Parker
Yes. Yes.
Chris
Yeah.
Parker
Yes,
⁓ for sure, yeah, for sure.
Chris
Yeah,
I
Reed
Yeah, daddy. Where'd that come from?
Parker
Wait, who said that?
Steve
Yeah, daddy.
Daddy!
Jason Ziolo
Your wife
was knowing on the phone.
Reed
Hey daddy. Call me daddy, bitch.
Jason Ziolo
All right, let's go, guys. OK.
No. Welcome, guys. It's season two, episode 10 of Rock Fan Radio. In the room today, we got Travis, we got Steve, Parker, Chris, and Reid. It is Wednesday night, May 6, 2026. Bunch of stuff to talk about today. Going to keep it mostly about current news, maybe talk some concerts. Chris and I just got back from Sick New World. We're going to spend a bunch of time on that.
Chris
you
Jason Ziolo
Parker and Reed you guys went saw electric cowboy We got to hear all about that and it's been an interesting week for music news So let's get into it. Who's got something first?
Reed
Is Greta Van Fleet breaking up?
Steve
What?
Jason Ziolo
That was what
I was going with, right?
Reed
They had a cheeky little announcement saying that it's been fun. Thanks for the wild ride and love all of the members. And they kind of just left it at that. So everybody's kind of wondering, are they breaking up? Is it just a weird tease for new music? It was a very cryptic announcement that they sent out.
Jason Ziolo
What did they say? They said, they said, thanks for the wild ride. Love, I'm looking at it. Josh, Jake, Sam and Daniel. And that's all they said. But they have a video for it. It's almost a minute long on YouTube that just shows them doing clips afterwards. But that's all they said.
Reed
Love Josh, Jake, Sam, and Daniel with nothing else.
No, was just clips
like a montage of their career basically. So it's weird.
Steve
Maybe they're just thanking the fans for the wild ride.
Jason Ziolo
You
Reed
Maybe.
Chris
You know, it sounds like a perfect way, though, to introduce new music. ⁓ You know, in some song called, you know, like, This Is the End or something like that, kind of a cheeky little nod, ⁓ social media marketing, all that.
Jason Ziolo
I
Yes, it really.
Reed
It does, especially from those
guys.
Steve
They're super young, right?
Jason Ziolo
I am going with this is just
Reed
Let's hope so.
Jason Ziolo
a marketing ploy. I don't think they're breaking up. Who breaks up like that?
Reed
I don't think so.
Plus, they're finally starting to gain some traction here over the last couple of years. It would be a really shitty time to just leave now.
Parker
It could be the new farewell tour situation, Like, bye-bye. But not really.
Steve
You mean like the stones did for, I don't know, three decades?
Jason Ziolo
Yeah.
Parker
I think maybe
the Eagles have had about 15,000 of them as well.
Steve
Yeah.
Jason Ziolo
Ozzy
Travis
How
many times has Motley Crue retired?
Jason Ziolo
had like six retirement tours, didn't he?
Steve
Yeah, exactly.
Reed
Yeah, I think
Ozzie...
Parker
speaking
of Motley Crue, I think they're coming back. They are.
Jason Ziolo
of course, man, they're in their back again.
Reed
Does anybody want that?
Steve
Yeah, I do! I would be awesome! Fuck yeah.
Reed
Do you? I...
Parker
You
Reed
alright. Not right.
Travis
I don't know, man. I've seen some, some Tik Tok videos of Vince Neil these days, man. He is, he is, he's not holding up. I tell you what though, I did see crew fest back in the day a couple of times. If you guys have never seen Miley crew, Tommy Lee is worth the ticket price alone. That guy is super entertaining.
Reed
Yeah, it's over.
Steve
best.
Reed
Dude, other washed up bands, like, what about that whole thing with Sebastian Bach on the cruise where everybody's like turned against him out because he's, you know, a piece of shit. It's like, wow, I'm shocked he's a piece of shit.
Parker
it was.
Chris
Hahaha
Steve
I didn't hear about this.
Reed
No? ⁓ it was, I gotta look it up real quick. Cause it was like one of his like long time fans or Tony partners or something like that. And just went off. Yeah. Yeah.
Jason Ziolo
It wasn't another band member that was talking shit. We were talking about it over text, right? And
Chris
Yeah.
Parker
I think it was a guy
Chris
Yay.
Jason Ziolo
someone
Parker
from a different band, but from zero.
Jason Ziolo
came out and they're like, he is just the worst person in the entire world.
Reed
Also, like, he was complaining that he was drunk all the time. It's like, did you not know who Sebastian Bach was, is, gonna be? I mean, you can't expect him to be sober.
Chris
Yep.
Parker
Right. Well,
it's like what you said about Amity when I brought up the drinking problem. You kind of said it comes with the territory, right, with the heavier music side of things. I think it's kind of expected in a way.
Reed
Do you think Skid Row was heavy? I'm sorry.
Parker
Well, no, no,
but I'm... No, but you know, rock and roll,
Jason Ziolo
Back in the day they were, I mean, for what they were,
Reed
Rawr!
Jason Ziolo
they were the Lorna Shure of the 1980s.
Parker
Hahaha!
man, quote, quote of the lifetime. I'm putting that on my wall, by the way.
Jason Ziolo
That's great, yeah. But back to Motley Crue that you mentioned in Travis, it's not the same band anymore. I don't know how you can be Motley Crue without Mick Mars. Right, like that's genuinely sad to me that he's no longer.
Travis
It is definitely not.
Yeah, and they burned him on the way out. know, I mean, they've like completely ruined the, you know, it's like, that was like a 40 what plus year relationship. And now they like basically pretend that like he doesn't even exist. So, which is a shame. Fun fact, Mick Mars is from Terre Haute, Indiana. I'm pretty sure he still has family there. So, you know, it's like Indiana represent, but yeah, I mean, Mick, in terms of the hair rock guys, I think he's always been one of the most underrated guitar players. His tone.
Reed
Mmm.
Travis
⁓ And the riffs that that guy has written is I mean just ⁓ Just killer like I take anybody who has heard Kickstart my heart and tell me that they don't want to jump in a car and drive on the interstate at a hundred miles an hour listen to that song I mean
Jason Ziolo
The monster riffs he comes up
Steve
Yeah!
Yeah! Yes!
Jason Ziolo
You're speaking Steve language.
Chris
Ha ha ha.
Reed
You
Jason Ziolo
All I really know about Mick Mars is from the movie, the Motley Crue movie. Did you guys watch that? With MGK as Tommy Lee. But Mick Mars, he was like the dad, the father of the band, or the big brother that brought everybody together and made shit happen. And you can't just kick that kind of guy out. It seems really sad.
Steve
Yeah, it's awesome.
Travis
Yeah, the
Chris
yeah.
Travis
dirt.
Steve
Tommy Lee. Yeah, it was good.
Travis
Yeah, I mean, obviously he had a debilitating health issue. know, I it's, I mean, I, when I saw him, I mean, you could tell the guy was dry. I mean, he could barely walk, you know, I mean, he, suffered through it for, I don't even know how many years before finally he just couldn't do it anymore. But, know, what's that? ⁓ I can't pronounce it. The, imagine Dragon's lead singer has the same thing. It's like where your bones like fuse together over time.
Reed
Apparently you can.
What was wrong with him? I actually don't know this. What was wrong with him? I don't know this.
Travis
⁓ it's, it's a horrible, horrible disease. ⁓ and yeah, I'm pretty sure mix had multiple surgeries to kind of relieve it, but, it's pretty much something you just, you struggle with your entire life. I can't even remotely pronounce it. There you go. Yeah.
Steve
knew somebody.
Jason Ziolo
Ankylosis spondylitis.
Reed
Ankylosis spondylitis! Nice.
Jason Ziolo
Yes.
Reed
Yikes. That's not good.
Jason Ziolo
A chronic inflammatory form of arthritis that mainly affects the spine and pelvis. He said he's had it since he was 14 years old at the top of his tailbone and was diagnosed at age 27. What a horrible, horrible, horrible thing to
But John 5 stepped in for McMars and John 5 is a badass, but it still doesn't feel right to
Parker
Thank you.
Travis
Yeah, it just doesn't work. His style is... I don't know, it just doesn't really fit.
Jason Ziolo
Was John 5 in McMars? It's not McMars, I'm sorry. The bass player. Dates Cat Ron D. What's that? Nicky Six. His size Pride Project, 6AM, which actually is really freaking good, especially that first album. I think John 5 was the guitarist on that album. And it's a really, really well thought out album. goes along with his book about when he went to rehab and did the whole.
Travis
Nikki Sixx.
Jason Ziolo
kickin' heroin thing and the album tracks the book pretty well. So it's like, it has some, know, on Christmas going into rehab and all the feelings and all the things that are going through his head. If you haven't listened to that album, it's a couple of years old now, it's a couple of decades old now, it's really freakin' good. And John 5's.
Reed
Hey,
when anybody says the word rehab, does anybody else get Amy Winehouse in their head immediately? Like that song will now be in my head for three days.
Steve
for the next couple days. Couple, three days.
Reed
Couple two, three days or so. They tried to make me go to rehab.
And I'm like, oops, I died.
Jason Ziolo
Did anyone see that Amy Winehouse movie or has it even come out yet?
Steve
Hmm.
Chris
No clue.
Jason Ziolo
All right, good story.
Steve
you
Reed
Hahaha!
Parker
Someone brought up MGK. Did you see that he's doubling down on the Youngblood diss?
Travis
You
Chris
Hahaha
Jason Ziolo
not even that big of a diss, I don't get it. Like it's like...
Chris
No clue.
Parker
No. Well,
he was on the Garza podcast. Chris Garza from Suicide Silence runs the podcast. And he explained that there was some private issues between him and Youngblood behind the scenes that led to him throwing the disses out. Apparently, Youngblood is not the nicest friend behind the scenes to MGK, of all people, apparently.
that he was on stage. That's MGK's big dispute there.
Reed
I'm so upset that we're talking about MGK.
Parker
It's so weird.
Reed
First off, Fred,
Fred, what are you doing? That song is not good. And like, can't he...
Parker
MGK,
he might be the most fragile human on Earth as well. mean...
Reed
The only reason he became famous, this is an overgeneralization, was him starting a rap battle with one of the greatest rappers of all time, if not the greatest rapper of all time. Like, was he anything before he picked a fight with Eminem?
Jason Ziolo
I'm gonna thrash them too, right? Like just made them look like an idiot.
Parker
Yeah.
Reed
⁓ it wasn't fair. But
like, MGK knew he was gonna get slashed, like, and he got the publicity out of it. He's more of a marketing machine than he is anything else.
Parker
To be fair, he was building his own stuff in the rap scene. But the Eminem stuff, I mean, shot him to the stratosphere for what he was, right? And then it just continued. when I saw him come out on stage in a pink jumpsuit or whatever the hell he was wearing with a pink guitar playing pop music and punk, I...
Reed
No, Parker, sucks!
Jason Ziolo
You cannot defend him, Parker.
Travis
You
Parker
I had no idea what was going on and it kinda saddened me too that you could just flip the script like that for someone like that and I mean, it's not even good music. Honestly.
Reed
That's
the problem. And I can't believe we've wasted 15 seconds on Machine Gun Kelly.
Jason Ziolo
Well, he's, he's, is
Steve
Mm-hmm.
Chris
Yeah. Well, I think he's
Jason Ziolo
he an idiot?
Chris
Good. I was gonna say, I mean, he hit the feud with Eminem, but I think he's most famous for his girlfriends. Like he's dated so many hot chicks and it's like, I mean, I literally couldn't tell you one song by the guy. I may have heard one song randomly somewhere, but yeah, I know who the guy is, cause he's on E! Entertainment.
Jason Ziolo
Go ahead, Chris.
Reed
hell yeah. Yeah.
Steve
Yeah.
Reed
Yeah, he the ladies, for sure.
Jason Ziolo
Who is the Transformers woman? He gave her that ring. You heard about the engagement ring he gave her? It had a lock on it. If you took it off, it was like, you know when you pull into a parking lot and you go over the spikes and if you go back the other way, you'll break your tires? That was on the ring if she took it off. It sunk needles into her skin as she tried to take it off, which is really, really kind of sick in a lot of ways.
Reed
Yeah, Megan, Megan.
Travis
Megan Fox.
Steve
Megan Fox.
Parker
Very good
talk.
Chris
Megan
Fox, yeah.
Yes. Yeah.
Parker
I think MGK has a lot of issues. I think it's very fragile.
Reed
and hot.
Steve
Forever means forever, Jason.
Jason Ziolo
It didn't mean forever though, they're no longer together.
Reed
you
She also doesn't have a ring finger anymore.
Chris
So what you do, just cut off her finger? Yeah.
Jason Ziolo
Steve, do you remember seeing MGK with me? Were you there, Reed? Did you come to Rocky USA with us in 2018? Yeah, me and Steve went and this was when no one knew who MGK was yet. This was in 2018.
Reed
well.
Steve
Yeah, I do.
No.
Reed
No.
Steve
It was
right when he flipped. It was like the first show, I feel like.
Jason Ziolo
He had like one of the best slots on the stage. Nobody knew who he was, which is why I always considered him an industry plant. And then he got up there and he like played cover songs, rock covers. I remember him doing Killing in the Name of. And I was like, this is like every bar band I know plays this and he's on a big stage playing it and didn't feel right. And it was really, really fucking bad.
Steve
Yeah, it was really bad.
Jason Ziolo
And then he went over to, I mean, was that before rap? Cause he started in rap and then he went to pop metal and then to punk, pop punk.
Steve
I think he,
I thought he was coming over from rap to rock at that point. And he came out and was doing, yeah, like you said, cover songs. And then he came out with Shinedown and was just like, like just talking into the mic.
Reed
can't believe we're still talking about
Machine Gun Kelly. This is now over a minute on Machine Gun Kelly. We gotta move on, Yes! I wanna hear why you guys didn't go see Wage War while you were there. What the fuck, man?
Steve
Yeah, we should stop.
Travis
TURN!
Chris
Yeah.
Jason Ziolo
We have to move on.
Steve
Yeah, so how
is Sick New World? I want to hear about...
Chris
Next topic, Jason.
⁓ man.
Jason Ziolo
We're gonna get to that, but we gotta talk about electric convoy first.
Parker
I have a couple heavy, heavy things, if you guys wanna get heavy real quick.
Jason Ziolo
Let's get heavy, Parker.
Steve
Get heavy.
Parker
I don't know if you guys heard, but Motionless and White just released a new song.
Steve
Oooh.
Jason Ziolo
God, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's go back to MGK, because you're about to start talking about Corey Taylor, and that's worse than MGK.
Parker
Eleven hours ago.
Reed
Wait, Motionless
and Corey Taylor just released a song?
Parker
Yes, they did. And it's called Playing God. It opens up with very, very, very Slipknot vibes in the drums and all of that. Very much playing into Corey Taylor being on the track. They've been on a hiatus for a while too. So they're kind of trying to make a comeback. I need to turn my light on.
Reed
I was just putting it in the chat. Why are you so dark? There he is.
Steve
Let there be Parker!
Jason Ziolo
Yeah.
Parker
Anyway, so yeah, I mean, it's a good song. It doesn't suck, but it's not my vibe. I'm curious if you guys have listened to it or heard anything about it.
Steve
No,
I haven't.
Reed
I'm going to go see motionless next Friday though.
Parker
Wow. Okay. Yeah. So they've been on hiatus and they're trying to make a comeback and they're all saying like this is motionless and white. They've kind of been kind of laying low for a little bit. For a few years. Yeah. For a few years.
Reed
So.
Jason Ziolo
With who?
Reed
Wait, who?
What? No, what's that? That
Jason Ziolo
No they
haven't. I'm with Reed too. They're all over rock.
Reed
they released... No way, dude. They... They have a new album recently and that song Soft came out, which is fucking awesome. Hiatus my ass. They're going out on a big-ass tour with Bring Me the Horizon.
You type faster!
Parker
I haven't seen them around for a while.
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
Travis
Didn't they kind of leveled up their popularity because either they had or had like they wrote the song for Rhea Ripley, the wrestler. I think that was like her entrance song. I think that they wrote that for her. And I want to say that like they had like a whole, I think, storyline where they were like she was like seeing a guy that kind of looked like the lead singer or whatever. I seem to remember that. But.
Reed
I'm just waiting for Parker to finish his Googling.
Jason Ziolo
I, Motionless is kind of mad
to me. They're like one of those bands that sits on the radio that you know their songs, but I would never go out of my way to see them. But Reed, that's your son's favorite band, my nephew's favorite band, isn't it?
Reed
Yep, and they're opening for Bring Me to the Horizons, so guess who's going to the pit? My 12 year old and me.
Jason Ziolo
Where is that ad on Friday?
Reed
It's
at Allstate. thought, didn't we not talk about this?
Parker
So, so motionless and white-
Jason Ziolo
Well that's another show I'll say
I'm going to and probably bail out in the last minute, but I'm in.
Parker
Motionless is White's last album was 2022.
Reed
Perfect. Wait, then when did soft come out?
Parker
before that.
Jason Ziolo
We're going
with 2022.
Reed
Have they really been on the hay edge that long? God damn it. Who's the asshole then? This guy.
Parker
They have been chilling for a little bit. In fact, in fact,
in fact, they even said they were coming off a break recently. And Chris, the lead singer, said that this is their year to prove it. I'm not really sure what that means. But that's what they said. ⁓ yeah, I mean, maybe some crazy new stuff from them.
Jason Ziolo
All of us are going to the internet to find out.
Reed
Are they proving they needed the hiatus? Are they proving that they're still?
Parker
They're clearly featuring Corey Taylor, so I think they're trying to come out with a bang again, but I mean, it's been a while for them. They've kind of been sitting on their hands.
Steve
Yeah,
Reed
Cool, well hey, you know what?
Steve
all the good bands only put out albums every 10 years.
Reed
Jason, I agree with you. It's one of those bands, it's one of those bands that's kind of like, it's never really high on my radar, but like, it's been one of those bands that I've wanted to see live for a while now, and if you're gonna open for Bring Me the Horizon, and Amira Elfke, did I pronounce that correctly, is opening for that show too, which I'm actually kind of curious to see, because she seems like an industry plant to me, so I'm kind of curious to see how she will be live.
Jason Ziolo
Read.
They're a good opening band. That's a perfect opener. They're opening level status for me. Chris, we saw Motionless. I don't think you were with me, but we went to Sydney World the first year they played. And I remember Brooke and I stopping by for two songs and going, ⁓ And we left and went saw a different band. So that's basically what I remember out of them. And Reed, soft by Motionless from White, is almost 90 years old to the day.
Reed
We're gonna release it now, guys. I mean, you're just A+. That is perfect timing.
Jason Ziolo
No.
Parker
So I refute
what you said they are. They did take a long break and they're trying to come back with a bang. In other news, Zach Wild, he hosts Berserkis, just announced that Lamb of God is going to be the headliner or one of the headliners. So that's pretty cool for Lamb of God. I kind of want to go see Lamb of God. Really bad.
Reed
It turns out I'm an idiot. We all do this.
Bless you.
Do not.
Steve
Yeah.
Parker
No,
I've seen them a lot, but they are always, always a bang in time. It's amazing.
Reed
Yeah,
I can't believe they still have that energy. I mean, this was covered in another podcast, but you've been around for this long and you just released your 10th album and it's the best of your catalog and you're still coming at it with that much energy. I mean, they're just a super group.
Parker
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, feel like every album we've had is very unique and on the top, when it goes on, you know it's Lamb of God. I've said it before, like that's, for Lamb of God, that's good because that's what you want from Lamb of God. Sometimes you get those bands that are like, oh, it's the same stuff, Lamb of God just keeps bringing it and it's great.
Jason Ziolo
ACDC band for me.
Parker
What's that mean?
Jason Ziolo
They all, it all sounds the same to me.
Reed
they can play stadiums.
Parker
Okay. All right. It is fair. It is fair, but for some reason, Lamb of God has escaped that for the fans that they've generated, right? Like so many bands these days, if you start to sound the same, people start leaving, but not for Lamb of God. That's what people come for is their unique sound and you do it well. Yeah.
Reed
That's fair. That's totally fair. That's like-
or breaking Ben. Yeah.
Yeah, Breaking Bend is the same way. We talked about that on one of the last podcasts. If
you put
Jason Ziolo
Read,
Reed
out a song, you know exactly that it's Breaking Bend, but you can't place what album that thing's from unless it's the first one.
Jason Ziolo
That Sunday, we had a random podcast so you could talk about the Lamb of God album. I remember I posted a clip of you saying it's their best album yet after all these years because you went on a rat. And someone on our social media disagreed with you. So you should go hunt them down and tell them why they're wrong.
Reed
wrong.
Where did they post that?
Jason Ziolo
⁓ on social media.
Parker
You
Travis
The last album is really good. here's the thing though, they have, for me, I've seen them twice, they have not translated well live for me.
Parker
Wonderful.
Reed
no!
Parker
I'm of God?
Travis
Yeah, I didn't. Both times they opened up for Metallica, so they were they were pretty large venues. And I think I don't know if their sound engineer just wasn't having a good day. But both times I've said it just it's so muddy. It just sounded it was just a wall of noise. The mix was just terrible. It was it was not a good translation of what I know they're capable of.
Reed
Where did you see him?
Chris
Wow.
Reed
All right, I'm gonna start a conspiracy theory. Metallica sabotaged them because they didn't want to be upstaged. Put that in your social media bucket.
Travis
I mean, they are tremendously good musicians.
Parker
Were they?
Jason Ziolo
Billy Corgan is known to do that for the Smashing Pumpkins.
Parker
See ya.
Reed
That's not surprising at all.
Parker
That doesn't surprise me either, at all. Did-
Jason Ziolo
been known
to fuck with the levels or make sure the levels are lower for the other van. I know this is a local H story. Local H opened up for Billy Corrigan at Summerfest last year. And there was some rumors behind the scenes of how Billy Corrigan likes to sabotage the openers. And that's why they sounded like shit.
Parker
Well, I mean, that's because smashing pumpkins sounds like shit anyway, so they need to do that to the opening bands to make them sound a little bit better.
Jason Ziolo
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Travis
You're breaking the heart of the Chicagoan right there, like with the pumpkins.
Parker
I jest,
Reed
He's just, he's just being a dick.
Parker
I jest, of course, but I am. Smashing pumpkins have never been my vibe.
Travis
You know, actually, so the guys in the band and I were
Chris
Ha
Travis
talking like, I know Corgan uses a fuzz pedal, but like his distortion, like, especially on Simey's dream. I mean, like it's unmistakable. Like he's got a tone that you're like, that that's pumpkins. Like you just know whether you like him or not. I always felt like he developed a distinct style and sound that really set him apart. I think from
I mean, cause God, mean, he came out in the early nineties, well, late eighties really, think Gish came out in 89 maybe like they had a lot of competition obviously in the early nineties with a lot of great bands and man, they wrote some bangers.
Reed
We're the Smashing Pumpkins at Sick New World by chance.
Chris
They were not.
Reed
I'm just trying to get you guys a segue into Second New World
Parker
We're not done with heavy.
Reed
for fuck's sake. Can we talk about Second New World?
Travis
You
Jason Ziolo
Travis,
know why that Simeez Dream album sounds so huge in those guitars? Because that's Butch Vig. That's Butch Vig producing that album. Famously, know, did Nevermind by Nirvana. you know, found a way to make four chords sound like it's absolutely massive. he's, I remember watching some documentaries with him.
Travis
yeah, 100%. Yeah.
Jason Ziolo
And like for the Nevermind album, that's Nirvana, he used to like secretly record when Kurt was warming up and pulling his tracks and layer them on just to make it sound big. And Kurt used to always not want to do a second track. He was totally against it. would, Butch Vig would literally sneak it in without him knowing. I mean, that's why those guitars on the Pumpkin Sound were so huge. Butch Vig's like, hmm?
Reed
get consent.
Parker
In other news...
Jason Ziolo
So,
in other news, segue, segue, scene queen, go. Okay,
Parker
Well, hold on. Hold on.
Chris
Wow.
Parker
Hold on. We have a couple new releases. But first, Alyssa White, Glooze? Is that how you say her name?
Jason Ziolo
I don't know, Arch Enemy?
Parker
yes, joins Dragonforce, which now they have two females, right? So that's, that's some news there. just they added a member. Yeah, I think so. ⁓ yeah.
Jason Ziolo
Yes.
She's a co-singer, they have two singers. I don't know much about Dragonforth. I know they run the Smart Hero and I know JT
went on tour with
Travis
But she is not an arch enemy anymore though, right?
Parker
They kind of wrote
Jason Ziolo
She's actually the manager of Arch Enemy, and Arch Enemy just announced a new singer a couple months ago, and there was a rumor she was gonna come back to Arch Enemy. But she's actually just managing Arch Enemy now and singing for Dragonforce.
Parker
Thanks.
And then we got two new releases. We got a band called Aerial, which they're kind of up and coming. They released a song called Bloom. Highly recommend going to listen to that song. It's really cool. It brings the energy. But Northlane, Northlane just dropped a new single and it's been a little bit for them, I think. And this one is, what is it called? Damn it. I just had it here. What happened to it?
It is called Evian and it's different for them. A little more electronic-y, but does anybody like Northlane here? It seems like no.
Reed
Everyone's just staring at you.
Jason Ziolo
It came up on my feed the other day and I turned it off. It was like, not for me.
Parker
I know.
Chris
crickets.
Travis
I don't have enough experience.
Parker
It's yeah, I don't know how to feel about it. It's kind of like their first thing in a little bit and I Some of it's good and some of it's kind of kind of meh But I thought there would be more North fans or North lane fans among amongst us, but apparently not I Thought you would be read
Reed
checked them out. I'll do it next time. Or maybe I have and I just and it didn't register? I mean it's it sounds like a band that I've listened to.
Parker
Interesting. All right. Well, that's all I have.
Travis
I'm familiar with them, I
don't have an opinion.
Parker
They've kind of been dead for a little bit, but they were really big in the metal scene for a while, but we'll see what they do. Who knows? But check out the song.
Jason Ziolo
Other
new releases that aren't quite so heavy, The Black Keys put out a new album. I have not listened to it. I heard this thing on the radio, sounds like Black Keys. Though Steve, you keep talking to my wife, Brooke, about wanting to go see them live. So that's gotta happen this summer.
Steve
I want to see the Black
Keys live. Yeah, and I'm kind of pissed that I just found out about them releasing a new album because I love the Black Keys, man. I've been listening to those guys since was the first album rubber. What the fuck was the name of it?
Jason Ziolo
the first Black Keys album. Seven Dust had a new album come out on Friday. Anyone listen to that one yet?
Steve
Yeah.
I heard a song off of it on my feed. Yeah, not bad.
Jason Ziolo
Yeah,
the first single, Sounds Like Seven Dust, another ACDC band. God's Neck, another ACDC band released a live album, which I haven't had a chance to check out. And then probably my favorite off the list is The Totys released a new album. If you guys, anyone knows The Totys from back in the 90s? They, Possum Kingdom, the song about vampires out in the shed in the woods, or, show you this dark secret song.
Steve
Yeah.
Travis
Nope.
Steve
I thought you said Tony's, not the Cody's.
Jason Ziolo
They got a new one come out came out that shows on there on tour with with my favorite band local h right now, which is cool in there They're rolling through Chicago. I mean any week
Travis
They are coming to Indy in September. I'm excited. I've never seen them. My band covers Possum Kingdom, so they have a special place in my heart. So yeah, I'm pretty excited. And they're coming to a venue that's really intimate too, so it's real small.
Jason Ziolo
Are you a Toadies fan, Travis? Like, do know their stuff?
Travis
⁓ I know enough, mean their first, Rubberneck was a pretty solid record back in the day. Now I've only heard the Charmer off the new one, but I mean it definitely sounds like a Toadies record. I was not aware really, they kind of dropped off the map, but man, I think this is like their seventh or eighth release. They've been steadily doing, and I was like, what? When did this happen? So yeah, I need to go back and dig through their catalog, but.
Steve
Yeah it was.
Jason Ziolo
It's still going on for a year.
Travis
I heard they're really great live, I'm anxious to see them. If that works out, assuming I'm available.
Jason Ziolo
I think I've seen it.
Reed
I saw them and like this is baffling my mind I'm gonna have to fact-check this but I swear to God it was when I think it was them in the Nixons back in the day
Jason Ziolo
Oh, I love, you know, I pair those bands together in my head. Like Green Day and Offspring live together. The Nixons and Todys are paired together for me.
Reed
That's what I'm scared I'm doing right now.
Travis
Yeah. You know what? I lied. I have seen them. My God. I don't know why I they opened up for the red hot chili peppers on the one hot minute tour back in the day. So I've seen them as an opener. It was Space Hog and Toadies, but yeah, I've never seen them as the headliner. So.
Jason Ziolo
how that sounds awful.
Chris
Wow.
Yeah. Yeah, I've seen Tony's a ton. They're good live, Travis. You'll like them.
Jason Ziolo
Bass song's another one put right in room too.
Travis
Wait, you know.
⁓
all right. Yeah, good. so yeah, new Foo Fighters dropped on the, and the new Atreyu also. And I tell you what, man, I know a lot of people don't like Atreyu anymore. They, they love the old school, like when they were a lot more hardcore. The new album, I listened to it today. It is pretty fucking heavy. I think it's a nice little callback to when Alex was in the band. I thought some of the songs were really, I think Brandon Saller is a tremendous vocalist.
⁓ I like his side project better than a Tre you personally, but I really liked that new record and the new food fighters. I thought was pretty good too. There was some good stuff on there.
Jason Ziolo
I've been meaning to get around to listening to that one and I've heard it's a little bit different and or it's completely the same as everything else they do. Is that fair? You don't? Okay.
Travis
I do think it's a little bit different, yeah.
Reed
There's only two options.
Jason Ziolo
Mm-hmm. It's like, you exactly the same or you just stray off just a little bit? That's about as much as Dave Grohl's going to do when he writes songs.
Reed
Ha
Travis
⁓ I think it's a little more raw.
Chris
Hold on Jason, I
thought you were saying that it was so different. Yeah, it was so raw and you loved it and it was like this return to form and all that.
Jason Ziolo
You are calling my shit, and you're right. I did say it was different, and I loved it. I guess maybe that's why I'm expecting the rest of the album to not be different.
Chris
That would suck, yeah, yeah.
It's a good guess, it'd my guess as well.
Jason Ziolo
Yeah, Coloring the Shape, one of my favorite albums of all time. I talked about it to death last season on the podcast.
Steve
you
Travis
to Masterpiece.
Chris
Yep. Yep.
Jason Ziolo
So, scene queen, anyone heard anything about her recently?
Reed
It's cream cream.
Parker
I missed most of the show. I missed most of the show. I saw like the last two songs. I hate Scene Queen, to be completely frank with everybody. I do not like that style of metal. I don't like that she calls herself Scene Queen. I don't like the whole gimmick. It ruins the whole metal scene for me. Just... And that's fully metal elitism coming from me, and that's how I am, but...
Reed
Can I? I was gonna ask you if you showed up. Like, fair, it's fair. I...
Chris
I have not, tell us more.
Parker
It is not my thing. The rap that's in the thing. She's like, I used to do this thing with my buddies where we would listen to heavy metal music. And when we didn't feel like doing the growls, we would kind of do like a, a funny like speech, like, ⁓ we're, talking, we're talking the lyrics. And that is exactly what I feel like she is. And it just feels like a, it just feels not like genuine to me, but
I'll pass it to Reid, who seemed to have a great time at the show, that we were both at taking pictures of each other from the floor and the seats.
Reed
Yeah, no, I got there early enough to watch everything. First off, it was at WinTrust Arena, which is the easiest venue for me to get to. it's...
Jason Ziolo
Which one's Wind Trust? Is that the one we saw Bring Me the Horizon with Grandson and Knocked Loose? Okay, I kept thinking it was where the outside one where we saw Rocky, or not Rocky, Chevelle a couple years ago, but nevermind, go ahead.
Reed
Yes. Yeah, it's attached to McCormick place.
Parker
It's
DePaul's basketball stadium. Yeah.
Jason Ziolo
It's the Paul stadium. Yeah, that's exactly
right. Yes.
Reed
It's just, it's so easy to get to when you're on the South side. Yeah, for sure. So anyways, I got there in time because all three of those bands I hadn't seen yet. And I was really there to go see Polaris more than anybody else, to be honest with you. But I'm glad I stuck around. I'm glad I got there early for Scene Queen. Like it was, she is a decent enough third, like first opener. Like I...
Parker
It is pretty easy to park there too.
Jason Ziolo
Perfect opener,
she's an opening band.
Reed
But I, no joke, 15 minutes into her set, I did a watch check and I was like, ⁓ my God, we're only 15 in. Cause the bit does get old. It gets super old. But like 18 plus, she closes with 18 plus, which is just so much fun. Like she's a good opener. Her set could last about 15 minutes and that would be enough for me. But.
Jason Ziolo
Thank
Travis
Hahaha
Parker
Now,
18 +, some of that I do appreciate because, I mean, for whatever reason, per capita, in the scene of metal and heavy music, there is a ridiculous amount of abuse that happens. A lot of it is borderline underage, girls on buses. I don't know if I'm allowed to, but the 18 +,
Everyone everyone says and and they do do three beeps during the song they have like a Backing track that says our lawyers say we can't really say who this is but Really? They're calling out all-time low, Which they've always kind of been surrounded by this thing lot of other bands to Hollywood undead is one of them Tons of them. I mean as I lay dying has issues
Steve
you
Parker
That's a little bit different, but what's the profits band? ⁓ Lost Profits, like it's rampant, right? it's, yeah, it is, it is, but this kind of stuff, for whatever reason per capita is rampant more so it seems in the heavy metal community and rock and roll community, and I'm not sure why, I mean,
Jason Ziolo
loss profits.
Chris
⁓
Jason Ziolo
That guy's a piece of shit.
Chris
That's a whole different ball game though right there Parker.
Parker
Who knows? But I do appreciate people calling that out because it's disgusting, honestly. So it is pathetic. mean, you're a semi-famous musicians, and even more so like the famous ones, like why are you needing to do this underage girl stuff unless they're into it? And then you're using your platform for a problem. And so that kind of stuff, I do appreciate.
Reed
It's pathetic too, like...
Parker
you know them calling out the situation. Yeah.
Reed
Yeah, she's great. And that entire set was all around trying to make metal more inclusive.
Jason Ziolo
The first verse
of 18 plus is actually pretty great and seen Queen is a self She admits she's a man hater and did she talk any shit about the men in the audience?
Reed
She didn't talk shit about the men in the audits. She just kept all of her hatred to bands in the industry and her own band into joking.
Parker
I do believe they got some backlash a little bit doing that because I mean the people going to see those kind of shows are genuine or generally more male, right? So I do think that she had some backlash calling the audience out. I don't think that is very wise to do as a performing artist. However, I understand the sentiment that she was trying to do. I think it makes more sense for her to call out the general
Reed
in
Parker
issues in the scene rather than being like, hey, you're here, you're a man and I hate you, but you're watching me play music. That doesn't really translate for a band, feel like.
Reed
She's doing it for a purpose though, so I think it's a little bit different, yeah. But, yeah.
Parker
For sure, absolutely. I'm just stating...
Jason Ziolo
Fuck
the scene on the queen. Headline spot goes to the abuser. That's right. Half my idols are fucking losers. If I'm the bitch just starting rumors, what about the dogs turned into groomers? Good bands save their fans. I laughed the ironers. Shit heads get off on blatant misogyny. I'll go full ice pick lobotomy if I see one more notes app apology. It's pretty fucking good.
Chris
Mm.
Reed
She was entertaining, but like I said, the bit just got a little bit old. The whole Barbie shit.
Like, the music was good. I enjoyed, like, the performances. It was just, you know, it was the bimbo Barbie persona crap that just got a little...
Parker
And to be fair, the Bimbo Barbie persona while also doing the up on your podium or what do call it? Soapbox, up on your soapbox, it is a little contradictory when you're trying to be the Bimbo Barbie and also call all this out, right? A little bit, just a little bit. And so it is satire 100%, but it just, I don't know. The whole thing just is a gimmick to me and it just does not.
Jason Ziolo
Did she play Barbie and Ken?
Reed
What's satire?
Parker
rubbed me the right way. do think that she's calling out some, some very, very needed things in the industry from the stage that has never really been done before. But I just don't think the gimmick that she's driving would be the way that I would do it, but I'm not on stage doing it. So who knows?
Reed
I'm glad she's there, she's got a good voice for it. She can keep doing what she's
It works.
Jason Ziolo
Chris and I
saw her, and I thought she was a lot of fun. This was a couple years back, though. And she was the first in a very long festival. And so it kind of fit. We were still warming up. And she played Katy Perry. And who doesn't love Katy Perry, right?
Chris
Yeah, she's perfect as you mentioned, know, perfect opener, perfect festival, kind of early in the festival kind of a band. But yeah, Parker, I don't know, you or Reed, one of you guys nailed it. You know, in order for her to take the next step in her career, she does kind of have to lose some of the the bimbo Barbie stuff because it does get old after a while. You can do it in a few songs, but at some point you have to have like a regular song. Unless you just want to be weird out.
Reed
A lot of people are in it.
Parker
yeah. mean, I think she's going to have to have to make a choice at some point to keep getting bigger.
Reed
But then.
Jason Ziolo
You guys ever seen the Weird
Al movie? Go see, watch the Weird Al movie on Hulu. It's a hoot.
Parker
Okay.
Reed
We'll do that. But then!
Chris
I've heard it's good. Yeah, I haven't seen it.
Jason Ziolo
It's a lot of fun and it was not what I expected it to be because it's a documentary, right? But it's a lot of fun. Who was after seeing Queen, Reed?
Reed
Then out came Polaris, which is the whole reason
I went. And Polaris came out with a mission to just burn everybody's faces off. And my God, did they crush it? It's everything I knew Polaris was gonna be, and it still blew me away. But here's the fun thing. At one point I was texting with Parker up in the nosebleeds, and I'm like, dude, Jake Steinhauser is fucking awesome.
And then I came to realize that it wasn't Jake Steinhauser. And they finally announced that Jake was back in Australia dealing with some family stuff. And they had Ryan Neff filling in on bass, who is the bassist from Miss May I, formerly of Azadly Dying as well. But Ryan Neff could be his own band, man. He just sleaze on bass and he's doing the clean vocals now for Polaris.
But that show from the start until the end was just balls to the wall. Absolutely off the charts. Polaris is a must see. I'm so glad I got to see him. Just shredded.
Parker
Polaris is one of those bands that sounds like they do on the album. ⁓ You know, we talk about Aero, we talk about Currents, we talk about those kind of bands that just like are heavy, genty, that come out and sound like the album. And that's what you want with these kind of bands because of some of the technicality on the guitars and some of the stuff that they do on the album. If some of it is...
Reed
Yeah.
Parker
like, you know, there was, remember being in bands always, you know, like you want the music to sound really good, but when we're playing it live, we want to make it sound like the song, right? You know, let's take little, little cheat courses and whatnot and try and weave ourselves so that we don't kill ourselves on stage, but make it sound like it. Well, you can't really do that when you have a chuggy riff that has ⁓ amazing
Ambient lead guitar over it right like it's got a kind of sound exactly like it does and Polaris does a fantastic job it the lead singer came out ⁓ Yeah, Jamie Hales, thank you He said he was sick You could and what I feel like every time someone comes out and says something like like then I can recognize yeah, your voice does sound a little a little like you're sick or whatever
Reed
To me, health.
Parker
And they're from Australia, right? So he's like, we're from Australia. And then all of a sudden I hear the accent. It's kind of funny. I don't know why it's always like that. But then you could hear like, OK, he does sound a little sick. He brought it all night. And they did not quit. I was a little upset, a little disappointed, because they only played for 30 minutes, just like Scene Queen. They were the special guests. I kind of felt like they would play for 45. ⁓
Reed
45 would have been great.
Parker
They did the most with that 30 minutes. think they could, they talked a couple of times, you know, hyping up the crowd, but they pretty much just blew through all of their hits that they could. And, and I mean, they rocked the house. was incredible.
And then we have these guys come out and they, okay. this, this, ⁓ geez. The stage is like half, like a quarter of the size of the stage for, for all these opening bands. I'm like, why is the stage so small? There's gotta be something going on, right? Electric cowboy comes on all of sudden lights come on. You can kind of see some ruffling behind, behind the, the curtain and it just like.
Jason Ziolo
How were they?
Reed
my God.
Parker
drops and the whole curtain drops. have this massive stage going on with like multi layers, that the drums are up. The, the, the kicks had like X's that would like respond with light. when they were hitting the drum, it was incredible. I did not expect it. I kind of expected like they were just going to be on stage in there. You know, they came out and they're like,
Jason Ziolo
Good.
Parker
like a, a Euro, Euro techno type like hoodie thing. ⁓ at first I thought, yeah, yeah, it was like a vest. thought it was going to, you know, kind of like.
Reed
Vest, zip up vest. Yeah.
Jason Ziolo
What's the Ben
Stiller movie where he's a supermodel?
Reed
Yes, yeah.
Parker
Yes, and you
know kind of like Michelin like man like puffy and I'm like, okay like okay. This is the outfit they pick They play their first couple songs Lights go down for a minute this this crazy screen in the background has like this 3d looking robot and they did a great job with it it's like this 3d looking robot that's like doing lasers and shit and then
Reed
with the robot.
That robot
cracked my shit up. Like when you had the boombox and he was like turning it and like kind of like jiving with it like.
Parker
Yes. Yes. It was great.
And then they come back and they were in a different costume. And I'm like, okay, well, all right. Like this is a electric call boy. They did that like 12 times throughout the night. They changed their outfit for almost every single like techno big hit that they had. And they were wearing the stuff that they wore in the music videos, which was hilarious. And, ⁓ Kevin and Nicole.
Jason Ziolo
Hahaha
Parker
They are hilarious dudes just in general, but man, they killed it and they played for almost two hours. They played for almost two hours. It was not a concert. It was a full blown show.
Jason Ziolo
wow.
Reed
40.
I literally sent this to the text channel from all you guys. Like they are on a trajectory to be playing stadiums. There's no doubt in my mind. Like I was covered in confetti because they kept just blasting confetti out into the pit. They did these this great balance between like full on scream metal, but like they would do these interludes of really amazing like rave style.
Parker
Yes.
Steve
Thank
Reed
Techno music, it was unbelievable. Like they had this one interlude where they were probably changing costumes, but they, you know, it came out over the megaphone that like, we heard you like bass. And it was basically just a rave for 30 seconds. It was crazy. The people in the pit were absolute nut balls. I mean, like they were playing hacky sack the entire time. Like the whole thing is just a giant scene. There's no way that these guys aren't in stadiums at some point.
Jason Ziolo
Yeah.
Reed
Like Jason, saw them, you were trying to get me to go when they were at the Aragon, right? And now they're at Wind Trust, which is a pretty hefty, you know, jump between, you know, those two venues. They're gonna be at United Center and then they're gonna be at Soldier Field. I mean, they're just, the show is an hour and 40 minutes and it felt like it was a 40 minute party. It was wild.
Jason Ziolo
Yup.
Yeah, they're going to be United Center next.
Parker, the most important question is though, how did your son like it since it was his first concert?
Parker
So, Elliot not a scene queen fan, to be fair, only saw a couple of songs, but not a scene queen fan. Polaris comes on and I'm like, okay, like he's indulging me, you know, he's gonna stand and cheer for the first song. He was on his feet the entire time for Polaris. Electric Callboy comes on. This kid is singing every song that they're playing.
Jason Ziolo
Yeah.
Good for him, good for him.
Reed
Ha!
Parker
He's jumping. He was jumping so hard. We're up in those stands. We had a great view. Wind Trust is not so big where the back seats are too far away. So we had a great view. And he goes, Dad, I'm going to need you to hold my phone so I can hold on to you because I don't want to jump over the seats in front of me and fall. Nonstop the entire time Electric Callboy was playing, he was jumping up and down. At the end of the night, he didn't have a voice anymore. I mean, it's his first concert.
And absolutely loved it. It was an incredible night for him. This is actually his hat, technically. And I got him a shirt as well. And he had the time of his life. He told me, every time they come around, we have to go see him. It was incredible. I did not expect it. I mean, I was like, yeah, electric callboy is going to be fun. But just like Reed, I kind of went.
now of course, Elliott loves electric cowboy, but when I saw Polaris, I'm like, okay, Polaris and then electric cowboy just brought down the house even more than Polaris did. And I was expecting a fun time, a fun show, but it was far more than a fun show. It was, it was almost, it's kind of crazy for me to say this, but it was kind of almost life altering to see what they did on stage. mean,
Jason Ziolo
You
Parker
I did not expect them to be like that incredible. I expected them to be good and fun with Techno Train and all those fun songs, but they were out of control, like crazy out of control.
Reed
Insane
and so well produced the sound was great. Like everything that they did was just screaming of like early on Muse, right? Where you just knew Muse was going to be playing stadiums, right?
Jason Ziolo
Read bigger or
That was my question
you just cut me off. Better or worse than Muse?
Reed
So much better. Well, no, no, no, but wait, wait though. That's there. Those are two different things though. You know what I'm saying? Like Muses straight rock the entire time and electric cowboy kind of gets this gets a notch up for me because I do love techno and I love EMD and everything. So EDM I went backwards on that. ⁓ It's funny in my industry EMD is a thing. So I screw those up all the time. Like I'll be doing a software demo. I'll be like, yeah, EDM and they're like, what's that? I'm like nothing.
Jason Ziolo
so much better.
Parker
I can't
Chris
Wow.
Parker
answer that. I can't answer that.
Jason Ziolo
No, I don't.
EMG.
Parker
Hahaha!
Reed
⁓
Travis
Thanks
Reed
But it's the same thing, Jason. Like when I first saw Muse, it was at the Aragon before they were anything. They were a big British band, but they hadn't quite broken into the States yet. But you just felt it, right? That like, this band's gonna be, I'm gonna see them in a huge venue. And that Electric Callboy show was just like, you guys have gotta be outside with 60,000 people all going crazy. And just, it was insanely good.
Parker
They are one of the bands that can bridge the gap between headlining Lollapalooza, but also headlining Sonic Temple. Both of the people will love them and actually my buddy tagged along with me in LA, he just needed a ride. So when we were coming home, I told him, my friend who doesn't like heavy metal, doesn't like rock and roll, he's like,
Reed
Yeah, that's great.
Parker
Well, you know, like likes the softer indie type music, like very much against the screaming. He was at the super bowl that I hosted a couple of years ago, sitting in on my couch and I just happened to turn on electric call boy on YouTube because it just popped up after, after the, ⁓ the super bowl ended. And he was sitting there listening to electric call boy with his jaw all the way to the ground, listening to these guys and just.
speechless. Like that's this type of band. is, it's insane how fun they are. I mean, and, and they had this giant robot that I, that I already talked about, but one of the interludes, the drummer came out and was doing a drum battle to the giant robot that they had in the background. was, it was just insane, incredible. And it was funny. Like during one of their songs, pump it.
Reed
Hey!
Parker
You know, they're come out in this like workout gear and they're like doing all this workout stuff. The robot comes up and he starts pumping iron. was, it was just, it was insane. It was, it was fun. Incredible. Just out of control.
Reed
You know what's funny though?
Even from the screaming side of that band, Kevin, Raja, Jaja, something or other, like, I don't know how to say this, but like even his screaming isn't like a typical metal scream. Like he's got very clean screams to him, which is kind of weird, right? Like, so it's not like on the one hand,
It's extremely metal for what he can do with his voice. But on the other hand, it's like it's safe and okay for the people that aren't really into metal because he doesn't it's not like that that visceral scream. It's like it's a soft scream. It's dude. They're so good. If you guys get a shot, if you can go see electric cowboy.
Jason Ziolo
It's safe and okay.
Parker
You're very good.
Jason Ziolo
Well, I clearly
fucked up not going with you, thanks for making me feel bad.
Parker
You really fucked up not going.
Reed
You really
fucked up.
Parker
And,
uh, and Nico, Nico is an incredible vocalist, right? Nico came into the band in 2020 and that's when they, started to do this techno, uh, metal core stuff and they blew up. And part of it is because him and Kevin have such a good chemistry and they're fun. They're funny, but he's incredible. I mean, they on their, so halfway through the show, they, they did the acoustic thing.
But they came out into the crowd and they had the crowd sit down, no phones allowed. Like they were like, they did this thing and like, I don't love when bands do this, but at least they came out and walked through the crowd and they, they did it with like the pit people, right? They were right next to like, literally you could touch them and there was no security around. It was crazy. I mean, yeah, yeah, whatever. But I'm just saying like,
since when do bands do that kind of stuff anymore? You know, I don't see that anymore. You know, the last band that I saw do an acoustic set sat around a weird fireplace on the stage, Three Days Grace, you know, and...
Reed
Parker, must,
if you showed up on time, Scene Queen went out, she was out there, she was out in the pit for a full song.
Parker
Did they?
Reed
So there.
Parker
Well anyway, I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that. Electric Callboy. ⁓ But it was a crazy show. It was fantastic. And they're just gonna keep on.
Chris
It's worthless.
Jason Ziolo
Well, thanks. sounds amazing.
Reed
Not like going to a
festival in Las Vegas though. Am I right? Jason and Chris?
Jason Ziolo
Yeah, look at that segue,
Reed. Nice work. Nothing like going to a festival in Vegas, which Reed, Reed, Reed, Chris and I just got back from. Chris, what'd you think of the fest?
Chris
Yeah, it was good. know, third time going to it all three times with you as well. So, yeah, you know, the first time is always the most amazing because it's all brand new for you. This time, though, I mean, I thought it was just as good if not maybe even better than the first two times. I mean, the lineup was not as good. I think it's the first time, but I felt like our experience was a lot better this time.
Jason Ziolo
feel like we finally figured it out because the first couple times we went to Sick New World it was like we gotta go see all the bands and we didn't even try this time. We're like, you know what, we're gonna find a spot that has consistently good bands and not move and be a little more relaxed. And I think that worked out. And we were in VIP, so they got it. So, you know, they got the two stages, like all the big festivals do, and they rotate between the two main stages. And then all in the middle is the general area, but off on the side,
they've got the VIP. So Chris, me, and Brooke all got VIP this time. And it made a world of difference in terms of getting in and out, having a comfortable spot. We could sit in the grass and see the bands. There's no way you could have done that in normal general admission. made a huge difference, which I really liked.
Reed
You guys also got lucky with weather this year too.
Chris
Yeah, first year was brutal. I I had to go back to the hotel at one point. I wasn't ready for it. But yeah, this year, mean, there was like sun for like, what, the first hour maybe. And then after that, it was like all overcast. It was, mean, what, 65 degrees, 70 degrees. It was almost perfect. Yeah.
Jason Ziolo
It was gorgeous.
It actually got cold in the evening, because at the end of the night was a system of a down, and it actually started to rain a little bit. And it actually got cold at one point. Brooke bailed and left Chris and I there to finish the rest of the set. But out of the three times of the fifth year world, I know, right? Brooke always bails for the headline.
Chris
Yeah.
Steve
Veiled
Chris
Ha ha ha ha.
Reed
Hey guys, guys,
I know you guys haven't seen it before, so how was corn?
Jason Ziolo
⁓ corn. Were they even there? I've seen them.
Parker
Before we talk about all these... Before we talk about all these incredible vans, how do you skip Wage War? How does that happen?
Chris
I've never seen corn, I've always wanted to.
Jason Ziolo
Yeah.
Reed
Thank you!
Chris
I'll tell you how it happens when they're playing at the same exact time as Bring Me the Horizon.
Jason Ziolo
Yes, they played at this game time and bring me.
Parker
⁓ I would choose Wage
War every time.
Reed
But you've seen Bring Me the Horizon. You're
gonna see them again next Friday. Chris, you're flying up here for that show. Alright, I'm making shit up.
Chris
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, you know what, Pat Parker, there were a couple of times where I would have personally rather have seen another band, but I'm like, OK, I know Jason and Brooke want to see this band and then sing it together with them. I mean, we all know all the Bring Me the Horizon songs. We're all singing together. So it is a whole different vibe than if we were to go to Wage War, where, know, I don't think any of us really know all those all those song lyrics and all that. I I know a few of the the main ones, but.
That's about it.
Jason Ziolo
Yeah, and Bring Me was a top three band for the day for me to see, so I wasn't missing it for Wage War. And they're one of my favorite bands. I'd go see local H over Wage War, and I've seen them, you know, 100 plus times.
Chris
Yep. Yep.
Parker
Well, that makes sense for you.
Reed
How was system?
Jason Ziolo
What was the highlight?
We can't go through all these bands. mean, Chris, we saw Speed of Light, Violent Vera, Filter, Failure, Cypress Hill, AFI, Manson, Bring Me the Rising, Coron Evanescence, Mastodon, Acid Bath, Alien Ant Farm, Snot, POD, System of a Down, Orgy. We're not gonna go through all these. What was the highlight for you though?
Chris
Yeah, for me, mean, yeah, Bring Me the Horizon was great. Them into Korn, and again, all three of us knew all the Korn songs other than maybe one, like the new one. So yeah, I mean, it was just a vibe at that point, know, Bring Me into Korn. I really loved ⁓ A.F.I. They played a great set. They played basically like a hits set, like all the singles.
⁓ I know you guys weren't as into them, but yeah, it was great show. He's also, the singer is just a whole nother, he's a character.
Jason Ziolo
I thought
it was gonna be like that emo guy with like the hair over half of his face that was dyed black and super skinny kind of thing. That used to be his vibe, because that was not his vibe this show.
Chris
Yep. Yeah, that's what he was. Yeah.
Travis
He looks like a 70s porn star now. What the hell? Somebody had a TikTok video and so I saw a shot of what he looked like from the the close and I was like, what the what is Davey have? What is he doing? Like he's a great singer, man.
Chris
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jason Ziolo
He's 70s porn star now.
Reed
Hahaha
Chris
100%. Yeah.
Yeah, the transformation couldn't
be more. Go ahead, Travis.
Travis
I was gonna say, I would have loved to have been there for the AFI set. They're great live.
Jason Ziolo
I've seen AFI, they kind of lose me. For some reason, it just doesn't do a whole lot for me. But the lead singer had a lot of charisma. It was a lot of fun to watch. And Chris was giving me all the info about AFI and everything, bringing me up to speed on who they were, which was kind of interesting too. You know what band I've got, and I'm shocked by this. You know what band I have gone back to more than any band than what we saw since Sick New World? I keep going back to Speed of Light.
Chris
Yeah, yeah, really good.
Reed
Really?
Jason Ziolo
They
were the first band we saw open and it felt like Courtney Love on stage in the 90s. It really did. She had that, Chris, you said it best, she has that riot girl vibe that was a big deal in the 90s. And just four chords, real ambient, a little shoe gaze-y, a little grungy, got the Courtney Love screams going and the recorded stuff they have out is really pretty cool too.
It's heavier than I thought it was going to
Chris
Yeah, I mean, they're all really talented musicians. It's a three piece. And the singer, mean, she's not your typical riot girl. I she looks a little more kind of, I don't know, not quite as, you know, I just shot up some heroin as some of those riot girls looked back in the 90s. And she can sing clean. know, she can actually sing. So ⁓ yeah, really versatile. mean, I think I told you, Jason, I didn't know who they were.
I looked them up just to, know, cause one thing I do when I go to a festival, I always look up some of these bands. don't know who they are every now and then you're going to find one. You're like, yeah, these guys are really good. I want to see them. and that was the band for me this year. and then I looked up a little further. mean, so what was it? Velvet hammer? the big like music management company that does system, corn, deftones, I think Alison chains, like
all of these behemoths are signed to this management company. Well, they are too. And that's kind of, think, how they got as the openers on the main stage. But I think it also says how good they are. They're really good.
Jason Ziolo
felt like something you would have seen in the 90s. It did not fit like the metal core thing that's dominating the radio today. It was a throwback to the 90s, which I think is one of the reasons I really dug it.
Steve
So how did you guys like acid bath? You said you saw acid bath. I want to know. How was it?
Jason Ziolo
It took a little time for them to click to me. Like the first couple songs, I'm like, I'm gonna get there. By the end of the show though, I was balls deep in it. I loved it. So ⁓ I was in their last couple songs, they must've played like the more groovy breakdown type songs towards the end. And I found myself going, this is really cool. And...
Parker
you
Chris
Yeah, so...
Jason Ziolo
Brooke was with us and I saw her losing interest. I was gaining interest the more they went on. And I think when you compare them to Mastodon, I think Acid Bath kind of laid the foundation for Mastodon. It's that stoner rock, that doom rock kind of feel that Acid Bath was doing in the 90s and then Mastodon came in right after him and kind of did the same vibe but in 2026.
Chris
You
Jason Ziolo
I think Acid Bath did it way better.
Chris
Yeah, yeah, no, I couldn't agree more. mean, way better, I think. I'll be honest, I totally missed out on these guys when they were actually around the first time in the late 90s. I knew some other bands from the same era and kind of same sound. These guys I knew of them, it just never clicked for me. Now that they came back though, I did go back and listen to them. And yeah, for me, Steve, it does click. And so this was the first time I've seen them live.
I had a chance to see them in Houston a few weeks ago totally missed out because I was going to Sick New World Looking back. I wish I would have went to that show in Houston. It would have been great ⁓
Steve
⁓ it was a
smaller venue or something.
Chris
Yeah, I mean smaller venue, know, they're they were the headliner. So they're playing in an hour and a half as opposed to what they play here. Forty five minutes maybe. So. Yeah. Yeah, but they were great. Yeah, yeah, it sounded great. I think all the fans we met this one guy from California. was a huge acid bath guy from, you know, way back when. And ⁓ he was like, man, was just the best he ever saw. You know, they never sounded better. So, yeah.
Jason Ziolo
They played like six songs. They did not play a lot.
Chris
If you get the chance to see them, I'm assuming they're going to hit you guys in Chicago and Indy soon. So yeah, definitely recommend it.
Steve
Go Joll.
Jason Ziolo
think we might have missed
them maybe. If not, we should find a way to do that. That'd be fun.
Steve
that would be funny.
Parker
I saw
Reed
I
Parker
them
in 2025 at Sonic Temple. They didn't, I didn't get it. I didn't. It's the first, to be fair, that's not my style for sure. And I didn't get it. And I hadn't like done any research. literally was, Steve, you texted the group, oh, go see acid bath. And I did. And I just, couldn't do it personally, but.
Chris
Yeah.
Steve
You're young, you know.
Reed
I... No, that's not... Yeah. No.
Jason Ziolo
That's not your style Parker, that's not your style at all.
Steve
Give their
albums a listen, Parker. When the kite string pops or pagan love songs, they're both great. I love them.
Reed
That's still not, that's not Parker's vibe.
Parker
If...
No, but if they do come through Chicago, I will, if you go Steve, I'll tag along.
Chris
Yeah, no it's not.
Steve
Alright.
Reed
As long
as it's not on a weekday.
Parker
Hahaha
Steve
Yeah,
it's gotta be, yeah.
Jason Ziolo
You know what being in my room
Reed
Alright, here's the other thing too.
Chris
So Steve.
Reed
Look, I want you guys to know like, because like, you sent video from a pool while P.O.D. was playing and that looked badass. So how much music did you guys get in on this trip?
Jason Ziolo
A lot. So the past two times we've gone to Sick New World, though, like for me, the night before the fest ends up being the more fun night sometimes. Actually almost every time. And not to say the fest is bad, but I know the very first year, that's when Avenge did their whole thing and I felt head over heels for their new album. You've all heard me rant about this. Okay. You were there, Reed, actually, I think.
Steve
Yeah.
Lock.
Reed
Yeah, we met up after that show and you
Jason Ziolo
I was like, my God, I love it so much.
And then the next time we went to Sick New World, we got to see Spirit Box and Bring Me the Horizon do a show, which was really great. There's one other band there. What's that?
Chris
A small show too. It was
a club show. was a proper club show. Like it was what? 1500 people maybe? 1000 people?
Jason Ziolo
He was a proper club show. Yeah.
Reed
that's
awesome. Spirit Box open for Bring Me the Horizon?
Jason Ziolo
Yes.
Reed
mommy!
Jason Ziolo
There was another opener
on that bill too, I think, but I can't come up with who they are. And then this time we're like, and actually it's interesting because Chris, we were talking about like, when are they gonna release the opening, the pre-shows? Cause it's always a big deal. You know, the headliners usually come, who's it gonna be? And they dropped the pre-shows this year. And we looked at them and we're like, these kind of suck this year. And so we stayed at Resorts World because it's right next to the Fest and that's where we always stay.
Reed
Rolling Stones.
Jason Ziolo
And there was a pool party show with POD, Alien Ant Farm, and Snot the night before. And it was like, OK, I guess we'll do that. Chris, you bought the tickets, right?
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Ziolo
And we got there and it was, they call it a day club. So it's like going to a club, but it's for the day because it's all pool oriented. And they had a huge stage set up and just like these pools everywhere. And so we got in the pool. I think we were in the VIP area when we shouldn't have been, but we said we don't care. And we just crossed the pool, went in the air, sat on the edge and had like the absolute best spot in the club.
for all of POD and alien ant farm.
Travis
So who is singing for snot now? I was glad they got back together, I mean, yeah, Lynn Strait obviously has been gone for a long time.
Reed
That's a great question.
Jason Ziolo
Who's got a story
about that?
Chris
It's...
yeah.
You know, I don't know his name, Travis, but he's, I remember reading the story. He's some kind of like unknown guy. I don't think he was ever really in any bands of note. ⁓ Much younger guy than the rest of the band, but yeah, he's, sounds a lot like Lynn Strait and tons, I mean, tons of energy.
Steve
Is it aging?
Reed
There's nothing on the internet about him singing for Snotnet.
Chris
And they actually announced that...
Jason Ziolo
Wait, now that you said, lynch straight, Chris, is that the straight up guy that they did the trivia down for? That's the lead singer of snot. I never put that together.
Steve
No.
Reed
Carl Bensley.
Chris
Yeah.
Travis
Yeah.
Yeah.
Reed
So
Chris
yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Reed
I found it. It's not lead is now being led by Carl Bensley, who was in vidiate and consume the fire.
Jason Ziolo
So what's the story there?
Reed
Okay, now we all know though, it's Carl Bensley. There you go.
Travis
We all learned some today. Yeah.
So Lynn was tragically killed in a car accident many years ago. And it also killed his dog too, which is on the cover of the record. Yeah. It was just a terrible, like they were, they were really promising when their first record came out. They were kind of like on the cusp of that new metal hardcore kind of like area. was kind of a gray area.
⁓ I really liked their first record and then they had Angel's Son by Seven Dust was the big single that came out of that straight up record that they had written for, yeah.
Jason Ziolo
Okay, I didn't put
all that together that that I've heard a straight up I knew was some dude named straight I had no idea was the snot guy
Travis
Yeah, yeah, so it's pretty sad. I think he was only 24, 25 years old, something like that.
Reed
May I interject further diving into the web. is actually, Carl Benzely left in 2017. Andy Knapp is now the lead singer of Snot. So before you all fact check me in the comments below, after you like and subscribe, it is now Andy Knapp who is the lead singer. Carry on.
Steve
I said like bud.
Chris
Was he
in a band before though, Reed, does it say?
Reed
Look, there's not a lot of information on SNOT as whole, other than Lynn's straight. I mean, I could go on for days with all that. ⁓
Steve
Yeah.
Chris
You
⁓ I got it. I answered
my own question, Reed. He was the lead singer of Santa Barbara band Stronger Than Machines. Whoever they are. Apparently a local band.
Jason Ziolo
from Sam. ⁓
Reed
May they
rock on for eternity. Go Andy.
Chris
⁓
So they did mention though that night which I think was the first part of the guitar is like the first time he had mentioned anywhere Was they were released or they were recording a second album? So they've been recording it for a few months now I think they're hoping to release it either later on this year or whatever I since did see an article about that. I think a couple of days ago but Yeah, if you're not fan that they got new music coming on the way
Steve
Nah.
Jason Ziolo
Should be pretty cool. Sweet. If you guys want to hear more about.
Chris
and Jason,
you left out the best part though. Seeing an aging new metal crowd, so think about POD fans. How old are they? What think? Late 40s, maybe 50s? Imagine seeing them with very few clothes on in a pool. It was great. It was great.
Jason Ziolo
I
Steve
Like, mileage.
Parker
Yeah.
Jason Ziolo
Yeah.
Reed
Dude,
that reminds me of what we saw Rage Against the Machine a couple of years back, right? And it's all dudes now in their 40s, 50s, early 60s. like the conversations that I had with guys in the pit were hilarious. Like the amount of shit we used to do back in the 90s. And now we're like, God, I just can't wait for the show to be over so I can sit out.
Jason Ziolo
Well, that's the best part about my favorite festival every year is Riot Fest. Riot Fest in Chicago is vintage rockers. It is us. It is our people out there that are still enjoying the scene, still enjoying their music, and it's the best weekend of their lives.
Chris
Exactly.
Parker
Is Marilyn Manson like being held up with crutches on stage yet? Like what's up with him? Did he? Good. Good for him. Good for him. Cause he looks, he looks not so good lately.
Jason Ziolo
He sounded awesome. He sounded great. He sounded really great.
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
Reed
the way,
Steve
You're fucker.
Reed
I'm going
to that show, Jason. Rob Zombie in Maryland, are you?
Jason Ziolo
I'm probably going with you. Yeah.
No, that's another one of those, I'll tell you I'm going, but I'll probably bail in the last minute because that's my move.
Reed
I actually have a crew
going to that from my Indiana folks are driving over to see them. So you should come hang out with us. All right.
Jason Ziolo
All right, well, count me in. Manson
Steve
And that.
Chris
Yeah, so...
Jason Ziolo
was great. He was sober. This is the first tour he's been sober ever. And he even made a comment on stage about how he's sober. And there's not much to say except for he came, he saw, he threw down, he kicked ass and took names. I would have liked to see more. And he didn't play all the songs you thought. He threw a couple B-sides in there that you didn't expect to hear, which I thought was pretty cool too.
Parker
Good.
Chris
Hmm
Parker
Good for him. uh... Good for him.
Reed
That's good.
Steve
He had such an opportunity at Rock USA when we were up there to come out and fucking rock balls. And he didn't do it. I just, mm, that's a...
Parker
Good for him. So I guess.
Chris
Yeah.
Parker
Was he doing
his classic not wanting to come out fighting behind the stage with stuff? Because I know that's been a problem for him.
Steve
in his defense
in his defense it was storming like a bitch but
Reed
Jason.
Parker
Okay.
Reed
Which
Jason, what show was that when he had like snot like remember on his out of his and I'm like, because you were so excited to see Marilyn Manson and I was too. And then it was like 15 minutes in. I'm like this fucking sucks.
Jason Ziolo
think it was Rock USA. was one of those, was, no, was Chicago Open Air, I think, we saw him. And he did, had a freaking piece, just a hanger, the whole show, and you're like, ⁓ God.
Reed
Chicago open air.
huge ⁓ he was
Steve
UGH!
Travis
Hahaha
Reed
so he was so fucked up it was
Parker
That's gross.
Chris
Was
he that high that he didn't realize he had it? wow, that's crazy.
Reed
Yes, he was awful.
Jason Ziolo
was, yes he was, and he
was fucked up. You could see him stumbling, you could see him not performing well. It was a bad show.
Parker
I've heard some stuff about him not having problems. But that's good. I guess Johnny Depp isn't passing him any little blue pills lately, which is good to hear.
Steve
He had such an opportunity!
Jason Ziolo
And Steve's still pissed.
Travis
So to circle back to what we were talking earlier, I'd really be interested to hear what Parker thinks, because he kind of drilled down on it. But Manson, you talk about abuse in the industry, he's kind of a hard guy to like too. He does not have a good reputation in the industry.
Steve
Stop listening to shit.
Parker
My... I have a... It's hard. It's... This one is a fence-sitter for me. Because... There's so much... Different reporting where he's apparently acquitted and then not acquitted and then... Like, it was all consensual apparently, but it was just weird shit. Like, I don't know, particularly for this one, what is fully true and what's not. However, that being said...
If any of it's true, he absolutely should be prosecuted. It just seems like the last few, he's been kind of indicted and then all of a sudden acquitted and then more stuff comes up. like, you know, if the dude's a problem, then absolutely, like get him out. But also, you know, I don't know. It's hard to say, right? Because you don't want...
You don't want there to be a person who is doing it out of greed or maybe like for instance one of them that came out was that yeah sure some of the stuff was weird but it was all within the relationship and consensual while normal people could find it weird you know it was deemed that that was actually consensual. Right.
Jason Ziolo
You're having sex with Marilyn Manson. ⁓
Parker
Right. you know, there's there I don't really know
Reed
Shit's gonna be weird.
Parker
where to land or for some of it. It's right. And so I don't know where to land with some of it. But at the end of the day, you don't want people to be prevented from coming out and saying, hey, this guy or this gal or whoever, like, abused me. But on the same side of it, you don't want the people to come out and just have free rein and ruin people's careers just because they want want fame or fortune or.
Jason Ziolo
It's gonna be weird, man.
Reed
Where's the line?
Parker
or a quick dime, right? So for Marilyn Manson, for me, it's a fence sitter. I don't know. We talked about it in the group chat, and it seems like the consensus was kind of the same with we don't really know one way or the other.
Reed
We do know he is a freak, but that's not illegal, right?
Parker
He's a freak. For sure. It's not
illegal to be a freak, but at the same time, you know, there's, there's the whole borderline of pressuring these, these girls and, and, and absolutely like, you know, like you can use your position of power and fame. maybe it was consensual, but did he pressure them? I mean, at the end of the day, a lot of these dudes are assholes, right? I mean, we just talked about Sebastian Bach being a complete dick, right? But you know, like,
Reed
What was it?
Parker
Is it illegal to be an asshole? No, but should you be? Absolutely not. And if he's pressuring girls into situations where they did technically consent and whatnot, then he's a douchebag. Absolutely.
Jason Ziolo
That means a douche
bag. You know, the old show, Celebrity Cage Match or Death Match or whatever it was with the claymation? Scene Queen versus Marilyn Manson. I'd pay good money to see that.
Parker
Yes.
Steve
Manson
was on that, I thought.
Reed
Get those children off your
bus.
Jason Ziolo
Hahaha
Overall though, think Second World was a...
Reed
Alright, anybody got shows that they're going
to? Soon? I'm curious, what everybody got? Tickets to anything? Coming up?
Parker
I don't, but I do after this, do actually have a, I guess I'm a fan now again. So I'd love to do that in a minute.
Travis
I'm
I'm seeing Muse in July. I'm excited about that.
Steve
Ooh.
Jason Ziolo
We'll end up going to I'll end up going to that, but I don't have tickets yet. That might be a box show read. CKY was supposed to play at the Vixen up here at McHenry, and they just canceled it because the dude from CKY got sick. And then are you going to Sonic Temple next weekend, Parker?
Reed
Yeah, I don't either.
Parker
Not. I had to bail, unfortunately. know. No one bit the bit when I asked if anyone wanted to go. All of my friends bailed, and it just fell through. I'm really sad because Lorna Shore is going to be there. They've got another incredible lineup this year of bands. It is insane. It's fantastic. Wait, what did you say?
Jason Ziolo
⁓ boo.
Reed
I mean, I'd love to go.
Jason Ziolo
That's like the skid row of 2026, we're not sure.
I said, Warner Shores, the thin row at 2026.
Steve
you
Chris
I'm all
great.
Travis
It took him a second.
Reed
I feel like we
all need to commit though to go into a sick new world next year though as a podcast.
Jason Ziolo
I'll be there, so yeah.
Parker
I'm down.
And Sonic Temple. We should go to Sonic Temple. At least most of us.
Steve
never been to Vegas.
Reed
Sonic,
you would die, Steve. Sonic Temple's harder for me because it's it's like peak swim season here.
Chris
my god, yes, Steve, you would die.
Parker
Well, be a deadbeat dad and just don't go.
Reed
I still want to go.
I hate how much I love my children.
Jason Ziolo
You had right, it's just such a pain in the ass.
Reed
Man,
if they weren't so cool... ⁓
Parker
Can we have that be the intro? hate how much I love my children from Reed. is incredible.
Reed
Ha ha ha!
Travis
Chris Jason, I gotta ask man just because I saw the video you guys posted from the festival I mean can we all agree that Amy Lee still sounds like she's 25 years old God, she's good. She's so good
Reed
Yeah!
Anybody coming with me July 8th?
Jason Ziolo
For what?
Parker
To what?
Reed
going.
July 8th. It's on a Wednesday so I know Steve won't go but it's it's down here. I have an Essence, Spirit Box, and Nova Twins.
Jason Ziolo
Ooh, I wasn't interested until you said Nova Twins. You know, I don't think you can drag me to that one. have an essence, they were okay. And then Spirit Box, I'm kind of over.
Reed
I know, I didn't know if the twins would get you.
I'll be there.
Parker
I was... Spirit Box for me is okay too, but Reed... Where is it again?
Reed
That's it.
It's on S. It's at Timley. It's at Credit One Union.
Parker
What? ⁓ God,
Steve
family.
Jason Ziolo
⁓ yeah.
Parker
Tinley. If it wasn't at Tinley, I may have said yes. I might, I might join you. I might join you. ⁓
Reed
It's ten.
All right. All right.
Jason Ziolo
I got no shows
between now and the next cast, but the week after, there are shows galore. It's gonna be awesome.
Parker
So I have a, I guess I'm a fan now again if you guys want to hear it.
Reed
Yeah, this is a great ending point.
Jason Ziolo
Hold on, let's time out for a sec, okay? So this is gonna be off the podcast. Travis, you wanted to talk about the blue dot stuff, but I feel like that can pivot into a 25 minute conversation. Should we save it for next time or should we squeeze it in and make this one go long? So we're already at a buck 10.
Parker
⁓ right.
Reed
yeah.
I was just gonna say we, yeah, we can't go, I feel like anytime we cast well over an hour.
Travis
We can save it for next time.
Jason Ziolo
I feel like this is
about the right time. And with that, think Parker, should just do, I guess I'm a fan now next time.
Parker
Okay, well this is, well, I, I,
Reed
Yeah. We really got to condense these things, guys. I mean, we've got
a lot of...
Parker
I would agree with you, but it's pretty prevalent.
Jason Ziolo
We actually don't.
Okay, yours is timely. do your guess I'm a fan now, Parker, since it's timely and then we'll save Travis's stuff for next time.
Reed
Is it Scene Queen?
Travis.
Parker
Okay,
so normally it's I Guess I'm a Fan Now, but I'm already a fan of this guy and this band. I guess I'm a fan now again. Does anyone know who Alex Terrible is and Slaughtered to Bravail is?
Reed
Yeah, god dude, I fucking love Slaughter to Prevail.
Jason Ziolo
Not a fan, not a fan.
Steve
Yeah, we saw him.
Jason Ziolo
why? I real hard got away.
Travis
Another hard guy to like.
Parker
Is he? he? Okay, fine. But, but, you know, okay, but all right. This guy does bare knuckle boxing. I don't know if you guys know this. I mean, he's from Russia, man. He's like a hardcore guy. And he wrestles. Yeah, absolutely. It's crazy. Tonight. He has a bare knuckle event. And then he's playing a death core show right after.
Reed
Douchebag. Yes.
Travis
Yeah, he's kind of known for being a complete asshole.
Reed
Yes.
Steve
Yeah.
Reed
I mean, it checks out.
Jason Ziolo
And he wrestles literal bears.
He is crazy.
Parker
I mean, sure, maybe he's a douche bag, but that is insane that he is bare knuckle boxing and playing metal shows just same day. ⁓
Reed
bare-neckle
bare-neckle boxing a bear and then going off doing a show
Parker
⁓
It is insane. This guy is insane. I do like slaughter to prevail. They're crazy Those vocals are insane, but and I get it like it's like you like it or you don't that that is slaughter to prevail You know, it's pretty pretty heavy, but it is this guy's just insane. I mean Do you remember that video? He was like walking around with a literal bear through Chicago and like introducing himself and like
The dude is insane. Say what you will. Maybe he's a douchebag, but it's just absolutely incredible. He just keeps doing insane stuff and just keeps upping the ante for himself. And I can't help but like him. I can't. they are great live. And honestly, like when he does stuff like this, I'm sorry, but I can't help but like the guy. It is insane that you go bare-knuckle box and then you go play a brutal heavy metal show.
Steve
Yeah, we saw that last year.
Reed
Great live show too.
Yeah.
That's alpha maxing, bro.
Parker
Ha
Chris
Yes.
Jason Ziolo
All right, gentlemen, seems like the right time to stop. Thank you so very much for the time tonight. We will see you again in two weeks for episode 11. See you on the floor.
Reed
Peace.
Jason Ziolo
Alright guys, that was it. Thank you very very much.
Reed
Steve's like, fuck this, I'm out.
Jason Ziolo
Steve
and Chris like, I gotta get the hell out of here.
Travis
Always a good time. Always
Parker
Yeah.
Travis
a good
time. Hey, real quick, Parker. So we were talking about Slaughter to Prevail at work and we were talking about falling in reverse because, know, Ronnie Radke also a huge douchebag. Yeah, yeah, they tore together. My oldest stepson went. But one of the guys at work, he's into the pretty heavy shit. He's like, here's the difference. He goes, Slaughter to Prevail is good music by a shitty person.
Jason Ziolo
I saw him open for falling reverse.
Parker
Yeah,
Reed
raging
Parker
I don't like him.
Reed
douchebag.
Travis
Falling in reverse is shitty music by a shitty person. I thought that was pretty great. I do enjoy Alex terrible has these pretty amazing videos on YouTube where he like demonstrates his vocal technique. And I mean it is it is unmatched. I've never seen it like he has learned to vibrate like I know Dave talked about it because he's a speech pathologist like the way that he like uses his tongue to vibrate the air. I mean
Parker
Hahaha!
man, that's funny. That's pretty funny.
Travis
I saw like a video, like he's, you know, I don't know, a couple hundred feet or whatever away from, and I mean, he's un-miked and you can hear him in the back of the crowd.
Jason Ziolo
That's his thing. He
sings without a mic during certain parts of the song. I heard him outside his amphitheater. You could hear this dude screaming.