WHAT THEY SAID
"Therapy is for women. Men don't solve their problems by talking. Men solve their problems through action." * All That Remains frontman Phil Labonte posted a video on X June 21 defending his original podcast comments after former Cradle of Filth keyboardist Lindsay Schoolcraft called him out.
THE DETAILS
- Labonte first made the remarks during a June interview on Today's Boondoggle Podcast, arguing men need achievable goals and action-based activities like building or fixing cars rather than talk therapy *
- He claims studies show therapy has lower success rates for men, though he cites no specific research *¶
- Schoolcraft fired back that discouraging men from therapy is "an extremely toxic, masculine view" from the patriarchy and suggested Labonte himself needs help *¶
- Labonte wrote a 2024 op-ed on male disengagement from education and work; a House bill for a White House council on fathers and sons is currently in committee *
- All That Remains is a platinum-selling band with multiple Billboard-charting releases *
WHO IS RIGHT
Schoolcraft is right. Labonte waves around vague "studies" he never names while telling men to skip professional mental health care — advice that directly contradicts decades of clinical evidence showing therapy works for men when they actually access it. His "men need action not words" stance is exactly the patriarchal garbage that keeps male suicide rates climbing.
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
Labonte shows no sign of backing down and Schoolcraft's new album Harrowing addresses mental health head-on, so this dispute stays unresolved with both sides dug in.